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Post by Steve on Aug 30, 2018 14:24:09 GMT
Just to help get the ball rolling, I'm adding a few of the more popular theories that I've heard mentioned for people to discuss whether or not they feel the theory makes sense. Opinions are welcome on all sides, of course... and anyone can and should start their own theory thread if they have one.
Theory: Angel did it
This is often the one most people think of immediately. It's very common in cases like these that someone close to the victim is responsible and no one in this case would be closer than Matt's spouse, Angel.
Let's list some of the pros and cons of this theory, and add more of your own to the thread below.
Pros: Family members are usually prime suspects; Angel was the only witness and didn't seem to see the attacker clearly; she fled the scene without apparent worry for one of her children
Cons: Angel was injured; there were children home; no known motive; she didn't appear to have been in a physical struggle yet Matt had defensive wounds
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Post by scarcrow on Sept 4, 2018 10:44:02 GMT
I think this is a good idea of what happened mixed with the whole contract killing idea. If you remember listening to the reporter from the Statesville Record and Landmark he stated the the Mike Lawson the neighbor who let Angel in that morning said that her injuries did not apparently look that bad as if she had gotten shot by a gun. As well her story is very shaky one minute it is she woke up to a man at the foot of her bed, the next it was a shadow of a tall man in the door way. If either were true how does one escape with just a flesh wound, and if the second were true how does she escape period??? Also everyone talks about it being a miracle the daughter slept through it, one word for ya Benadryl. And back to other people’s comments about the child being left in the house and not acting wild and frantic suggests that she may have known there was no one in there all alone.
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Post by nicoleashley1754 on Sept 4, 2018 19:54:25 GMT
If I had never met Matt or Angel, I would 100% be suspicious of Angel. But I have and It’s almost impossible to imagine that. Although the mother seems crazy suspicious, again I read on the dream thread that she owned a insurance company, which is weird. Also what relationship does she have with the mooresville police department? Mooresville is a small town, could the department been bribed in someway? It seems likely that someone is leaving the cause open on purpose so answers cannot be found. After this many years, I hope the guilt of the person who very violently killed Matt is slowly killing them. You do not stab someone and shoot them with two different guns if you don’t have hate for them. It was personal. The door was unlocked, no neighbors heard anything, 2 witnesses were left unharmed (Angel and a 6 year old that stayed asleep for 8 hours), the mother showed up for no reason.... also Matt’s sister knows something but is afraid to speak out. Freddy was pretty much threatened for looking into this, why are people so afraid to talk about this? Who are they afraid of? It’s obvious to me that there is a lot we don’t know but also I think there are people who know the truth. Is there any sort of motion that can be filed against the mooresville police for their neglect in this case?
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Post by scarcrow on Sept 4, 2018 20:34:08 GMT
If I had never met Matt or Angel, I would 100% be suspicious of Angel. But I have and It’s almost impossible to imagine that. Although the mother seems crazy suspicious, again I read on the dream thread that she owned a insurance company, which is weird. Also what relationship does she have with the mooresville police department? Mooresville is a small town, could the department been bribed in someway? It seems likely that someone is leaving the cause open on purpose so answers cannot be found. After this many years, I hope the guilt of the person who very violently killed Matt is slowly killing them. You do not stab someone and shoot them with two different guns if you don’t have hate for them. It was personal. The door was unlocked, no neighbors heard anything, 2 witnesses were left unharmed (Angel and a 6 year old that stayed asleep for 8 hours), the mother showed up for no reason.... also Matt’s sister knows something but is afraid to speak out. Freddy was pretty much threatened for looking into this, why are people so afraid to talk about this? Who are they afraid of? It’s obvious to me that there is a lot we don’t know but also I think there are people who know the truth. Is there any sort of motion that can be filed against the mooresville police for their neglect in this case? But I think in my opinion if Angels Mom did it then Angel had a hand in it or knew about it cause why would a mother in law just randomly kill her son in law? |
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Post by mumsobsession on Sept 5, 2018 13:34:56 GMT
Ok so forgive the length I’ll try to keep it short. The wife is Angel? Info I didn’t know “she owned an insurance company”? If there was any ‘motive’ missing, IMO, there it is! Also, understand, I don’t want to blame the wife, I don’t want it to be her, & I truly do not believe it is. To am just saying, I heard somewhere where is her motive, that’s it. (I have another theory I will share elsewhere).
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Post by dwight on Sept 5, 2018 14:01:18 GMT
Ok so forgive the length I’ll try to keep it short. The wife is Angel? Info I didn’t know “she owned an insurance company”? If there was any ‘motive’ missing, IMO, there it is! Also, understand, I don’t want to blame the wife, I don’t want it to be her, & I truly do not believe it is. To am just saying, I heard somewhere where is her motive, that’s it. (I have another theory I will share elsewhere). The wife is Angel, but she did not own an insurance company, nor do I think her mother owned an insurance company. Not sure where all of that come from, unless Matt's side of the family owned an insurance company? |
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Post by wirebender on Sept 7, 2018 16:25:37 GMT
Curious 1982 I agree Sara was very involved with politics but I’ve never knew her to be angels grandmother are you certain of this
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Post by meesha on Sept 10, 2018 1:48:19 GMT
First, I have compassion for how this podcast and forum may be affecting Angel and Matt’s family. I don’t post lightly.
If this was my husband, I’d be shouting from the rooftops for justice. Forever. Where is/was her voice?
I suspected her immediately. And then I saw her video. She’s not guilty. She’s beautiful and she loves the Lord.
But then I hear her new husband’s wife had been killed. And I suspect her all over again. Where is her voice shouting for the detectives to find her husband’s killer?
When did she remarry? What do we know about her new husband? And how did his wife die?
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Post by dwight on Sept 10, 2018 12:28:18 GMT
First, I have compassion for how this podcast and forum may be affecting Angel and Matt’s family. I don’t post lightly. If this was my husband, I’d be shouting from the rooftops for justice. Forever. Where is/was her voice? I suspected her immediately. And then I saw her video. She’s not guilty. She’s beautiful and she loves the Lord. But then I hear her new husband’s wife had been killed. And I suspect her all over again. Where is her voice shouting for the detectives to find her husband’s killer? When did she remarry? What do we know about her new husband? And how did his wife die? I have met the new husband, and he is a very nice man. His former wife actually died of cancer. |
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Post by Steve on Sept 10, 2018 14:05:51 GMT
First, I have compassion for how this podcast and forum may be affecting Angel and Matt’s family. I don’t post lightly. Such an important point. This is something that we should all take great pains to do, while still posting our thoughts and theories. Remember, if there were strong evidence against anyone they would have been charged. The family has gone through so much already and they have chosen to not be out at the forefront of the search for Matt's killer for reasons that are their own. We may not understand those reasons, but that doesn't make them less valid. I still have hopes that some in the family will choose to participate in the discussion in the future. Their help would be invaluable. |
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Post by artemis444 on Sept 10, 2018 15:00:37 GMT
Something I found interesting is one of the people interviewed saw the child being away at her first sleepover and the other child in a room with the door closed as divine intervention. I saw it as planning. If I decided to kill my husband I would want my kids kept away. Just a thought.
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Post by scarcrow on Sept 10, 2018 15:14:50 GMT
Something I found interesting is one of the people interview saw the child being away at her first sleepover and the other child in a room with the door closed as divine intervention. I saw it as planning. If I decided to kill my husband I would want my kids kept away. Just a thought. But if you go back to the very first podcast Hannah giver her account of what happened and she said that she was at a sleepover like she had done many times almost every weekend? So not sure which one to believe I would go more on the side of Hannah, but who knows she could be covering something up you just never know with this case it has to many twists turns and just craziness. |
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Post by scarcrow on Sept 11, 2018 14:04:37 GMT
I assume that the killer used a silencer, otherwise, someone else would have heard the gunshots and the three year old would have woken up.....to me that indicates a hit man that knew what they were doing, especially since they miraculously disappeared without a trace. That leads to the question of who hired the hitman...based on the extremely strange behavior of the mother in law the night of the murder, I would venture to say she is suspect...motive is unclear though. I also find it extremely strange that the family will not talk to anyone about the murder but is fine participating in a music video and telling the story. Just very strange to me....I can’t imagine why someone would not want to solve the case and get justice for their loved one’s murder. Then again, I completely understand that I am not in their situation and there are things only they know that are contributing to their decisions. Only thing is there has been multiple reports that there were no casings at the crime scene. This would allow if the 911 report is correct the suspect 4 minutes to police the brass and escape the house. If you’ve ever shot any type of semi automatic pistol then you would know that if you are standing still it does not land in the same place let alone wrestling and fighting a man at the same time finding the brass would take some time. Also it says in the autopsy that there was a 38 used as well which you can get in a semi auto form it’s just very uncommon and rare. But maybe Angel stood down stairs till the job was done and allowed the suspect time to clean up and escape then ran off to the neighbors?? And maybe the suspect did use a 38 semi automatic to throw police off the trail and thinking that it was a 38 revolver that they were looking for??? But def a good theory |
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Post by Steve on Sept 11, 2018 14:55:19 GMT
The difference in the time of death would have been impossible to notice considering that police didn't enter the house for more than an hour and a half after Angel ran out. Time of death is at best an estimate and 15-20 minutes over the course of 2 hours would be within the range of error.
Also, to answer directly... no, there was never any estimated time of death that I'm aware of. It doesn't appear there was much consideration that things could have happened earlier. In fairness, Angel was still literally dripping blood on the driveway as she ran across the street. You can see the evidence markers in some of the news videos.
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Post by scarcrow on Sept 11, 2018 21:34:18 GMT
Wouldn’t be hard to fake that and make it look as if something has happened.
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