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Post by Batman on Apr 30, 2019 17:21:01 GMT
With a supposed rock solid alibi for the ex boyfriend, and the serial killer all but ruled out; The question now becomes....
Who was at this party/BBQ?
Who is Clay?
What does this old family feud have to do with everything?
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Post by dwight on Apr 30, 2019 18:00:32 GMT
If I’m not wrong, I think the family, related by marriage, is the Dyson family. Maybe there is some clues there?
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Post by curious1982 on May 1, 2019 4:44:11 GMT
If I’m not wrong, I think the family, related by marriage, is the Dyson family. Maybe there is some clues there? That's what I think too. The D family. Lots of police in that family! I think I read somewhere ( of course could be rumor) that Matt's grandmother maybe had been married to a Dyson. |
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Post by dwight on May 1, 2019 12:44:50 GMT
If I’m not wrong, I think the family, related by marriage, is the Dyson family. Maybe there is some clues there? That's what I think too. The D family. Lots of police in that family! I think I read somewhere ( of course could be rumor) that Matt's grandmother maybe had been married to a Dyson. Yes, as I understand it, Matt’s grandmother married Mr. Dyson whom was chief of police of Mooresville (retired). From what I understand, grandpa Dyson really took to Matt, as a new grandson. This, from what I hear, caused a lot of jealousy with the Dyson cousins. A new possible theory could be that the inheritance from grandpa Dyson would maybe go to Matt when grandma Dyson passes away. If Matt was eliminated, the inheritance would move to the next in the will. Just a theory, but this could make sense. |
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Post by curious1982 on May 1, 2019 20:44:35 GMT
Yes, as I was checking on the Register of Deeds, I saw one piece of property that was given to Mr. Dyson's sons, from his widow. It specifically said in there that she was left it in his will
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Post by curious on May 1, 2019 20:47:58 GMT
With a supposed rock solid alibi for the ex boyfriend, and the serial killer all but ruled out; The question now becomes.... Who was at this party/BBQ? Who is Clay? What does this old family feud have to do with everything? Or was there a cookout? This is one of those crazy episodes that left me with more questions. So, Danielle’s account has a barbecue and the neighbor who Hanna spent the night with said no barbecue. I tend to think it was unlikely since Matt worked until 7:15 that night, but Danielle’s (or her daughter) account was pretty detailed about setting up the yard. I’m so confused! All I can say is this is the craziest story. Like... you almost can’t make it up it’s so crazy. Also not buying that if the story about the $300 phone call is true that Danielle didn’t look to see who she called. Could be that it’s made up or that she absolutely knows and doesn’t want to say publicly... and I wouldn’t blame her. I can’t wait for the next episode! |
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Post by justis4matt on May 3, 2019 15:07:48 GMT
With a supposed rock solid alibi for the ex boyfriend, and the serial killer all but ruled out; The question now becomes.... Who was at this party/BBQ? Who is Clay? What does this old family feud have to do with everything? Or was there a cookout? This is one of those crazy episodes that left me with more questions. So, Danielle’s account has a barbecue and the neighbor who Hanna spent the night with said no barbecue. I tend to think it was unlikely since Matt worked until 7:15 that night, but Danielle’s (or her daughter) account was pretty detailed about setting up the yard. I’m so confused! All I can say is this is the craziest story. Like... you almost can’t make it up it’s so crazy. Also not buying that if the story about the $300 phone call is true that Danielle didn’t look to see who she called. Could be that it’s made up or that she absolutely knows and doesn’t want to say publicly. I can’t wait for the next episode! |
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Post by justis4matt on May 3, 2019 15:34:58 GMT
To the person asking about the bbq and cell phone. #1 I had NO IDEA that Freddie had spoken with my stepdaughter until he told me a week before this last episode aired. She was not living with my husband and I at the time. She lived with a boyfriend.
#2 i had talked to my younger daughter who was with Hannah that day at a bbq. I made a mistake about where it was. It was not uncommon for my kids to say that they were going to be with someone for some event and bc I knew these people I didnt get details. The parents had my number if needed. I told all of this to Freddie AFTER I recounted events with my daughter.
#3 Brenda offered me $300 to use my phone. I didnt think she would become the center of this. Put yourself in my shoes. It was extremely late, i had a baby who was newborn, knocking at the door that would not stop and i opened it to a woman yelling that her daughter had been shot and could she use my phone. To me....it the offer if money was like saying "ill do anything to use your phone". I did not take it seriously until she took it out and still refused to take it. A lot of people were aware of the phone and money including my husband and my daughter who was with the family the day before. As far as publicity....this is a podcast not NBC. I was told that Freddie was looking for me for a long time. I did not know for a few months but when he left his card at my door I had reservations bc i had no idea what he would want from me. I could have jumped on it but decided to do it bc Matt needs his killer to pay. Brenda is #1 on my list. Why would I make this shit up? If my stepdaughter remembers looking through the calls and saw that they were deleated they may have been but I cannot recall. My daughter who was at the house said that she remembered what the phone looked like and I just asked if she knew what number we had. It was a flip phone so it was a burner. Why....i didnt have good credit and could not get a contract. People were there and knew, people saw where I sat next to Brenda on the curb as she kept talking about different things. If you dont know what happened then dont speculate. I had been caught off gaurd and I try to look for good in people so I never thought that Brenda may have planned it out. Next time have a set and ask me.
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Post by curious on May 3, 2019 19:35:46 GMT
To the person asking about the bbq and cell phone. #1 I had NO IDEA that Freddie had spoken with my stepdaughter until he told me a week before this last episode aired. She was not living with my husband and I at the time. She lived with a boyfriend. #2 i had talked to my younger daughter who was with Hannah that day at a bbq. I made a mistake about where it was. It was not uncommon for my kids to say that they were going to be with someone for some event and bc I knew these people I didnt get details. The parents had my number if needed. I told all of this to Freddie AFTER I recounted events with my daughter. #3 Brenda offered me $300 to use my phone. I didnt think she would become the center of this. Put yourself in my shoes. It was extremely late, i had a baby who was newborn, knocking at the door that would not stop and i opened it to a woman yelling that her daughter had been shot and could she use my phone. To me....it the offer if money was like saying "ill do anything to use your phone". I did not take it seriously until she took it out and still refused to take it. A lot of people were aware of the phone and money including my husband and my daughter who was with the family the day before. As far as publicity....this is a podcast not NBC. I was told that Freddie was looking for me for a long time. I did not know for a few months but when he left his card at my door I had reservations bc i had no idea what he would want from me. I could have jumped on it but decided to do it bc Matt needs his killer to pay. Brenda is #1 on my list. Why would I make this shit up? If my stepdaughter remembers looking through the calls and saw that they were deleated they may have been but I cannot recall. My daughter who was at the house said that she remembered what the phone looked like and I just asked if she knew what number we had. It was a flip phone so it was a burner. Why....i didnt have good credit and could not get a contract. People were there and knew, people saw where I sat next to Brenda on the curb as she kept talking about different things. If you dont know what happened then dont speculate. I had been caught off gaurd and I try to look for good in people so I never thought that Brenda may have planned it out. Next time have a set and ask me. Since I posed a question about the call and am quoted here, I guess this is directed at me.
My statement about the phone call was in response to hearing somewhere “if this story is true”… I said that it COULD be made up, but that doesn’t mean that’s what I believe. I also said that if was possible that you did know and didn’t want to discuss it in a public forum, which I would not blame you for. That statement stemmed from the discrepancies in your account of events and that of your step-daughter. If you put yourself in the listener’s shoes, I don’t think that was an outlandish question. It was also never meant to suggest any ill will or indiscretion on your part. Just a point of discussion with others based on what I heard on the podcast.
Regarding the BBQ, my question was whether or not there was a BBQ. It was early summer and Hannah had just gotten out of school. Hearing there was a BBQ would seem to fit the occasion as a celebration, but knowing that Matt worked late that night makes the timing seem unlikely. My statement was that your account was very detailed, which leads me to believe that this was something you actually witnessed. Based on the discrepancies in your account and the other neighbor, it seems likely that there was a BBQ, but maybe a few days earlier. This was 10 years ago. If some dates/times weren’t a little off, I would be shocked. Again, this was never meant to question your integrity… just topics of discussion.
I never mentioned publicity, so I can’t own that one. As far as “next time have a set and ask me”, I would have had no way of doing that, but even if I had known how to contact you, I wouldn’t have. Not because I was afraid, but because nothing I said was meant to be an insult to you. I also wouldn’t have wanted to ask you questions that would make you uncomfortable. I think you did a wonderful thing that night by opening your home to the police officers and Matt’s family.
This forum is a place to discuss theories and questions, which is what I was doing. Like you, I choose to look for the best in people, and I am not afraid to apologize when warranted. I come to this forum to keep up with any new developments. I interact with others on the forum, and I try to always be respectful. I will keep asking questions and discussing theories here, because this case matters. Sometimes there are discrepancies in stories that lead to questions. Those questions may lead to more questions. Somewhere along the way, if we are lucky maybe someone will ask the right question that will lead to justice for Matt. That is why I am here. I do apologize for any misunderstanding or ill feelings my statements may have caused.
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Post by ellen on May 4, 2019 3:16:30 GMT
When I heard the last episode, I was thinking why wouldn’t you look to see what number she called, but this was 10 years ago, phones were very different, not like what we use now. Phone company should still have records though, right?? Hoping MPD will look into this.
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Post by justis4matt on May 8, 2019 11:35:34 GMT
To the person asking about the bbq and cell phone. #1 I had NO IDEA that Freddie had spoken with my stepdaughter until he told me a week before this last episode aired. She was not living with my husband and I at the time. She lived with a boyfriend. #2 i had talked to my younger daughter who was with Hannah that day at a bbq. I made a mistake about where it was. It was not uncommon for my kids to say that they were going to be with someone for some event and bc I knew these people I didnt get details. The parents had my number if needed. I told all of this to Freddie AFTER I recounted events with my daughter. #3 Brenda offered me $300 to use my phone. I didnt think she would become the center of this. Put yourself in my shoes. It was extremely late, i had a baby who was newborn, knocking at the door that would not stop and i opened it to a woman yelling that her daughter had been shot and could she use my phone. To me....it the offer if money was like saying "ill do anything to use your phone". I did not take it seriously until she took it out and still refused to take it. A lot of people were aware of the phone and money including my husband and my daughter who was with the family the day before. As far as publicity....this is a podcast not NBC. I was told that Freddie was looking for me for a long time. I did not know for a few months but when he left his card at my door I had reservations bc i had no idea what he would want from me. I could have jumped on it but decided to do it bc Matt needs his killer to pay. Brenda is #1 on my list. Why would I make this shit up? If my stepdaughter remembers looking through the calls and saw that they were deleated they may have been but I cannot recall. My daughter who was at the house said that she remembered what the phone looked like and I just asked if she knew what number we had. It was a flip phone so it was a burner. Why....i didnt have good credit and could not get a contract. People were there and knew, people saw where I sat next to Brenda on the curb as she kept talking about different things. If you dont know what happened then dont speculate. I had been caught off gaurd and I try to look for good in people so I never thought that Brenda may have planned it out. Next time have a set and ask me. Since I posed a question about the call and am quoted here, I guess this is directed at me.
My statement about the phone call was in response to hearing somewhere “if this story is true”… I said that it COULD be made up, but that doesn’t mean that’s what I believe. I also said that if was possible that you did know and didn’t want to discuss it in a public forum, which I would not blame you for. That statement stemmed from the discrepancies in your account of events and that of your step-daughter. If you put yourself in the listener’s shoes, I don’t think that was an outlandish question. It was also never meant to suggest any ill will or indiscretion on your part. Just a point of discussion with others based on what I heard on the podcast.
Regarding the BBQ, my question was whether or not there was a BBQ. It was early summer and Hannah had just gotten out of school. Hearing there was a BBQ would seem to fit the occasion as a celebration, but knowing that Matt worked late that night makes the timing seem unlikely. My statement was that your account was very detailed, which leads me to believe that this was something you actually witnessed. Based on the discrepancies in your account and the other neighbor, it seems likely that there was a BBQ, but maybe a few days earlier. This was 10 years ago. If some dates/times weren’t a little off, I would be shocked. Again, this was never meant to question your integrity… just topics of discussion.
I never mentioned publicity, so I can’t own that one. As far as “next time have a set and ask me”, I would have had no way of doing that, but even if I had known how to contact you, I wouldn’t have. Not because I was afraid, but because nothing I said was meant to be an insult to you. I also wouldn’t have wanted to ask you questions that would make you uncomfortable. I think you did a wonderful thing that night by opening your home to the police officers and Matt’s family.
This forum is a place to discuss theories and questions, which is what I was doing. Like you, I choose to look for the best in people, and I am not afraid to apologize when warranted. I come to this forum to keep up with any new developments. I interact with others on the forum, and I try to always be respectful. I will keep asking questions and discussing theories here, because this case matters. Sometimes there are discrepancies in stories that lead to questions. Those questions may lead to more questions. Somewhere along the way, if we are lucky maybe someone will ask the right question that will lead to justice for Matt. That is why I am here. I do apologize for any misunderstanding or ill feelings my statements may have caused.
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Post by justis4matt on May 8, 2019 11:36:21 GMT
To the person asking about the bbq and cell phone. #1 I had NO IDEA that Freddie had spoken with my stepdaughter until he told me a week before this last episode aired. She was not living with my husband and I at the time. She lived with a boyfriend. #2 i had talked to my younger daughter who was with Hannah that day at a bbq. I made a mistake about where it was. It was not uncommon for my kids to say that they were going to be with someone for some event and bc I knew these people I didnt get details. The parents had my number if needed. I told all of this to Freddie AFTER I recounted events with my daughter. #3 Brenda offered me $300 to use my phone. I didnt think she would become the center of this. Put yourself in my shoes. It was extremely late, i had a baby who was newborn, knocking at the door that would not stop and i opened it to a woman yelling that her daughter had been shot and could she use my phone. To me....it the offer if money was like saying "ill do anything to use your phone". I did not take it seriously until she took it out and still refused to take it. A lot of people were aware of the phone and money including my husband and my daughter who was with the family the day before. As far as publicity....this is a podcast not NBC. I was told that Freddie was looking for me for a long time. I did not know for a few months but when he left his card at my door I had reservations bc i had no idea what he would want from me. I could have jumped on it but decided to do it bc Matt needs his killer to pay. Brenda is #1 on my list. Why would I make this shit up? If my stepdaughter remembers looking through the calls and saw that they were deleated they may have been but I cannot recall. My daughter who was at the house said that she remembered what the phone looked like and I just asked if she knew what number we had. It was a flip phone so it was a burner. Why....i didnt have good credit and could not get a contract. People were there and knew, people saw where I sat next to Brenda on the curb as she kept talking about different things. If you dont know what happened then dont speculate. I had been caught off gaurd and I try to look for good in people so I never thought that Brenda may have planned it out. Next time have a set and ask me. Since I posed a question about the call and am quoted here, I guess this is directed at me.
My statement about the phone call was in response to hearing somewhere “if this story is true”… I said that it COULD be made up, but that doesn’t mean that’s what I believe. I also said that if was possible that you did know and didn’t want to discuss it in a public forum, which I would not blame you for. That statement stemmed from the discrepancies in your account of events and that of your step-daughter. If you put yourself in the listener’s shoes, I don’t think that was an outlandish question. It was also never meant to suggest any ill will or indiscretion on your part. Just a point of discussion with others based on what I heard on the podcast.
Regarding the BBQ, my question was whether or not there was a BBQ. It was early summer and Hannah had just gotten out of school. Hearing there was a BBQ would seem to fit the occasion as a celebration, but knowing that Matt worked late that night makes the timing seem unlikely. My statement was that your account was very detailed, which leads me to believe that this was something you actually witnessed. Based on the discrepancies in your account and the other neighbor, it seems likely that there was a BBQ, but maybe a few days earlier. This was 10 years ago. If some dates/times weren’t a little off, I would be shocked. Again, this was never meant to question your integrity… just topics of discussion.
I never mentioned publicity, so I can’t own that one. As far as “next time have a set and ask me”, I would have had no way of doing that, but even if I had known how to contact you, I wouldn’t have. Not because I was afraid, but because nothing I said was meant to be an insult to you. I also wouldn’t have wanted to ask you questions that would make you uncomfortable. I think you did a wonderful thing that night by opening your home to the police officers and Matt’s family.
This forum is a place to discuss theories and questions, which is what I was doing. Like you, I choose to look for the best in people, and I am not afraid to apologize when warranted. I come to this forum to keep up with any new developments. I interact with others on the forum, and I try to always be respectful. I will keep asking questions and discussing theories here, because this case matters. Sometimes there are discrepancies in stories that lead to questions. Those questions may lead to more questions. Somewhere along the way, if we are lucky maybe someone will ask the right question that will lead to justice for Matt. That is why I am here. I do apologize for any misunderstanding or ill feelings my statements may have caused.
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Post by justis4matt on May 8, 2019 12:39:19 GMT
I am sorry for taking what you said the wrong way. There are different accounts about the bbq and phone so I understand why people would feel like maybe it was not all true. I should have thought to look at my phone but my thoughts, at that time, were not about the family having anything to do with the murder. If I knew anything at all I promise I would have called "her" out a long time ago. I do remember my daughter Ashley, who was ready to talk but since finding Hannah on facebook, decided to go in the oppisite direction. I know that 10yrs ago she said something like "I cant believe it. I was just there yesterday and i was at the bbq with them. Can you imagine if I would have stayed the night." I took the bbq as being at the house. That was my mistake. As far as my stepdaughter, who has the same name as me, I cannot account for anything she said. She was not living with us at that time. Both my husband and I know that she was living with her boyfriend at the time. A lot of what she said was basically what she was told. As far as her seeing Matt and talking to him a few days before I dont know but bc she said that he was setting up for a bbq I dont think that shes remembering it correctly. I do not remember her looking at my phone and I dont remember all of my calls being deleted. Its not impossible that she had looked and the calls were gone but its been 10yrs and i cannot say for sure. The only things I can say for sure are
1- Brenda knocking on my door hysterical about Angel being shot. She did not say anything about anyone else except the baby being at the Lawson's until I asked about the other kids and Matt.
2- She begged me to use a phone and said that she would give me $300 to use it. I took it as a woman in desperation to use a phone and never thought that she had her own. Everything was happening so fast I was not even thinking about why she needed a phone other than hers.
3- I did find out, hours later, that she did have a phone but still didnt put everything together.
4- I sat beside her when she called Angel and told her that Matt was dead. She was calm and collected at this point.
5- This makes me very upset.....I was right next to her when Matt's parents came to my house. She did not let them stop the car and she told them "Matt is dead". It was so cold. I know that my stepdaughter wasnt there so she had to have been told that fact by either myself or her sister.
6-SWAT took an ungodly amount of time to go into Matt's home. They came into mine and that was when my children were woken up. It felt like hours had gone by and I could not comprehend why, knowing that 2 people were in the house, these very well trained people took so long to go in the house. I knew in my heart that if Matt wasnt able to yell to his daughter and tell her to get help or just to get her out of the house that he was dead from the beginning.
I wish 10 years had not gone by bc I know that there were things that seemed very odd but I dont remember everything so I dont want to get half of a story. I do know that Brenda said that it was a shame bc they were getting back on their feet and had paid off Angel's school debt. Im fuzzy on the number but I think that the amount was $10,000 or $15,000. It may have been a loan they had but I cannot be certain. The last, and most odd/unsettling thing was how Brenda insisted on cleaning up the crime scene. The woman had money. She said it was bc it would cost $5000 to have a crew do it. I dont care if it was $25,000. There is no way she is right in the head cleaning up her son in laws blood and everything else. That makes me cringe to this day. There are trained people to do that. There is no way a person who hasnt cleaned up a crime before or committed a grusome act could do that. I checked on her several times and she only complained of being exhausted bc the blood had soaked through the flooring. Weird/odd/crazy or guilty?
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Post by meesha on May 9, 2019 2:20:32 GMT
To the person asking about the bbq and cell phone. #1 I had NO IDEA that Freddie had spoken with my stepdaughter until he told me a week before this last episode aired. She was not living with my husband and I at the time. She lived with a boyfriend. #2 i had talked to my younger daughter who was with Hannah that day at a bbq. I made a mistake about where it was. It was not uncommon for my kids to say that they were going to be with someone for some event and bc I knew these people I didnt get details. The parents had my number if needed. I told all of this to Freddie AFTER I recounted events with my daughter. #3 Brenda offered me $300 to use my phone. I didnt think she would become the center of this. Put yourself in my shoes. It was extremely late, i had a baby who was newborn, knocking at the door that would not stop and i opened it to a woman yelling that her daughter had been shot and could she use my phone. To me....it the offer if money was like saying "ill do anything to use your phone". I did not take it seriously until she took it out and still refused to take it. A lot of people were aware of the phone and money including my husband and my daughter who was with the family the day before. As far as publicity....this is a podcast not NBC. I was told that Freddie was looking for me for a long time. I did not know for a few months but when he left his card at my door I had reservations bc i had no idea what he would want from me. I could have jumped on it but decided to do it bc Matt needs his killer to pay. Brenda is #1 on my list. Why would I make this shit up? If my stepdaughter remembers looking through the calls and saw that they were deleated they may have been but I cannot recall. My daughter who was at the house said that she remembered what the phone looked like and I just asked if she knew what number we had. It was a flip phone so it was a burner. Why....i didnt have good credit and could not get a contract. People were there and knew, people saw where I sat next to Brenda on the curb as she kept talking about different things. If you dont know what happened then dont speculate. I had been caught off gaurd and I try to look for good in people so I never thought that Brenda may have planned it out. Next time have a set and ask me. I just want to thank you for reaching out, and speaking up. For participating in this forum. I can’t imagine what you’ve gone through. But I am so grateful that you have chosen to participate in seeking justice. I never knew Matt. But through Freddie’s podcast, I want justice for him. I live near Mooresville and think about him often. Freddie has done such good work with compassion, and to know that you are working with him to discover the truth makes me believe it’s going to happen. |
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Post by Batman on May 9, 2019 14:34:20 GMT
When I heard the last episode, I was thinking why wouldn’t you look to see what number she called, but this was 10 years ago, phones were very different, not like what we use now. Phone company should still have records though, right?? Hoping MPD will look into this. Don't get your hopes up. |
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