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Post by mg1776 on Dec 31, 2019 14:38:11 GMT
I have been troubled by many things that the podcast exposed. One was the statement put out by one of the people interviewed that it did not matter who did it, God would punish them later. That is frightening and the kind of thing you would hear in some Jihadist country. And as Freddie points out, but the person that did it could do it again, and all of the crazies say, no, they won't. WHAT!? The second thing that was troubling was how "X" continued to pick and choose what questions he wanted to answer and decide when he wanted to spin things, all the while making obviously false promises about doing an interview. He gives off truly guilty vibes. However, what I would like to know is, did Angela remarry? If so, how long before she did? How long did she stay on X's farm? I am not going to lie, when there is an attack on a couple and one sustains multiple horrific wounds and the other obtains a single wound that can be covered with a band-aid, well, come on.
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Post by dwight on Dec 31, 2019 16:38:10 GMT
I have been troubled by many things that the podcast exposed. One was the statement put out by one of the people interviewed that it did not matter who did it, God would punish them later. That is frightening and the kind of thing you would hear in some Jihadist country. And as Freddie points out, but the person that did it could do it again, and all of the crazies say, no, they won't. WHAT!? The second thing that was troubling was how "X" continued to pick and choose what questions he wanted to answer and decide when he wanted to spin things, all the while making obviously false promises about doing an interview. He gives off truly guilty vibes. However, what I would like to know is, did Angela remarry? If so, how long before she did? How long did she stay on X's farm? I am not going to lie, when there is an attack on a couple and one sustains multiple horrific wounds and the other obtains a single wound that can be covered with a band-aid, well, come on. It actually was not a bandaid wound. The bullet went through her arm about half way between forearm and wrist, missing the 2 bones in the arm. The bandage was a gauze bandage all the way around the arm wound covering both sides. |
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Post by mg1776 on Jan 1, 2020 2:17:41 GMT
Wow, I take it back. So. her husband is stabbed multiple times and shot with two guns, but she sustained a single wound to the arm that required a piece of gauze, and the kid was not shot. Bull! There was a reason why those two escaped life threatening injuries, because they were protected, but not by Matt.
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Post by dwight on Jan 1, 2020 3:05:22 GMT
Wow, I take it back. So. her husband is stabbed multiple times and shot with two guns, but she sustained a single wound to the arm that required a piece of gauze, and the kid was not shot. Bull! There was a reason why those two escaped life threatening injuries, because they were protected, but not by Matt. I corrected your bandaid comment, that is all. Don’t get your panties in a wad. |
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Post by mg1776 on Jan 1, 2020 14:25:16 GMT
i saw video of her wound covered by a band-aid, you corrected nothing. Your comment did not deal with anything I was questioning, it was just catty.
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Post by curious1982 on Jan 1, 2020 21:10:58 GMT
I have been troubled by many things that the podcast exposed. One was the statement put out by one of the people interviewed that it did not matter who did it, God would punish them later. That is frightening and the kind of thing you would hear in some Jihadist country. And as Freddie points out, but the person that did it could do it again, and all of the crazies say, no, they won't. WHAT!? The second thing that was troubling was how "X" continued to pick and choose what questions he wanted to answer and decide when he wanted to spin things, all the while making obviously false promises about doing an interview. He gives off truly guilty vibes. However, what I would like to know is, did Angela remarry? If so, how long before she did? How long did she stay on X's farm? I am not going to lie, when there is an attack on a couple and one sustains multiple horrific wounds and the other obtains a single wound that can be covered with a band-aid, well, come on. She did remarry, I'm not sure how long after but I think it was quite a few years. I think I read somewhere that she lived on the farm for a year. Your suspicions are the same as everyone else's. How did she not suffer more serious injuries, when Matt was attacked in the horrific manner that he was. |
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Post by idiosyncrasy on Jan 2, 2020 16:13:25 GMT
Cause she knows who did it and she wasn't afraid....
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Post by livlarge on Jan 21, 2020 21:12:06 GMT
This case would have been solved within a fortnite had it been investigated by a big city homicide unit. I have no doubt. Why was so much of the “eyewitness” testimony accepted, without question. Imo angel was not a fact witness but a co- conspirator and should have been immediately treated as such.
a few of my evidentiary concerns:
- Brenda’s specific whereabouts and the exact time of those whereabouts; has it been established that her car was in the driveway, if so how. I think if her car is in that driveway that creates some serious timeline issues. I think therefore that the “invader” story, angel’s story, is concocted. And brendas general story is so much BS that it would have been picked apart by seasoned investigators. The same for angel’s post-“invasion” behavior and statements.
- X is clearly trying to steer Freddie. And his knight in shining armor explanation for angel’s sequestration is Bs. He is involved and his statement concerning Matt’s desire for his help in obtaining a gun is designed to point to an unknown person that Matt was concerned with. I doubt it ever happened. Why would ANYONE need anyone else’s help in buying a gun? In any city, in any state in this country. He apparently alibis out, but imo this is murder for hire, likely done by one of X’s “strapped” buddies guarding his property and angel.
- Lucy’s knowledge of the goings on in Jean’s house and with the family after Matt’s murder and then the move to the farm are particularly dispositive. That family hunkered down for a reason, and common sense tells you that it wasn’t in response to a credible threat.
- as for angel’s behavior during and after, I’d like to offer a different school of thought. I have less problem with angel’s running scared from the house with only one child, than I do with her abandoning the scene with one child in the house and unaccounted for, to go to the hospital and be treated for a frigging flesh wound. I would have been on site pleading with the swat to rescue my child. Screaming yelling pleading u name it. Instead she’s at the hospital getting some neosporin and a bandaid... wth!!
Anyway....Many murders have been solved after even a greater passage of time. I think this will be solved the minute new seasoned investigators decide to corroborate angel’s timeline and her and her mother’s statements. Their story will fall apart. If it were possible to find out who Brenda was calling with the neighbors cell, you would find your killer, or at least the middle man. These are sick sick people imo who hide behind a bunch of God’s will nonsense. That is no accident. They know their audience and knew it would go unchallenged. My two cents. I love the podcast and I look forward to fleshing this out and seeing Freddie help bring this killer to justice.
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Post by curious1982 on Jan 26, 2020 2:12:54 GMT
This case would have been solved within a fortnite had it been investigated by a big city homicide unit. I have no doubt. Why was so much of the “eyewitness” testimony accepted, without question. Imo angel was not a fact witness but a co- conspirator and should have been immediately treated as such. a few of my evidentiary concerns: - Brenda’s specific whereabouts and the exact time of those whereabouts; has it been established that her car was in the driveway, if so how. I think if her car is in that driveway that creates some serious timeline issues. I think therefore that the “invader” story, angel’s story, is concocted. And brendas general story is so much BS that it would have been picked apart by seasoned investigators. The same for angel’s post-“invasion” behavior and statements. - X is clearly trying to steer Freddie. And his knight in shining armor explanation for angel’s sequestration is Bs. He is involved and his statement concerning Matt’s desire for his help in obtaining a gun is designed to point to an unknown person that Matt was concerned with. I doubt it ever happened. Why would ANYONE need anyone else’s help in buying a gun? In any city, in any state in this country. He apparently alibis out, but imo this is murder for hire, likely done by one of X’s “strapped” buddies guarding his property and angel. - Lucy’s knowledge of the goings on in Jean’s house and with the family after Matt’s murder and then the move to the farm are particularly dispositive. That family hunkered down for a reason, and common sense tells you that it wasn’t in response to a credible threat. - as for angel’s behavior during and after, I’d like to offer a different school of thought. I have less problem with angel’s running scared from the house with only one child, than I do with her abandoning the scene with one child in the house and unaccounted for, to go to the hospital and be treated for a frigging flesh wound. I would have been on site pleading with the swat to rescue my child. Screaming yelling pleading u name it. Instead she’s at the hospital getting some neosporin and a bandaid... wth!! Anyway....Many murders have been solved after even a greater passage of time. I think this will be solved the minute new seasoned investigators decide to corroborate angel’s timeline and her and her mother’s statements. Their story will fall apart. If it were possible to find out who Brenda was calling with the neighbors cell, you would find your killer, or at least the middle man. These are sick sick people imo who hide behind a bunch of God’s will nonsense. That is no accident. They know their audience and knew it would go unchallenged. My two cents. I love the podcast and I look forward to fleshing this out and seeing Freddie help bring this killer to justice. But the big question is, when is MPD going to admit they can't handle this case, and hand it over to someone that can and will!? |
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Post by idiosyncrasy on Jan 26, 2020 17:43:53 GMT
They will never admit they were wrong..... NEVER! I wish someone else would take this case over
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Post by michie1103 on Sept 7, 2020 2:05:10 GMT
Anyway....Many murders have been solved after even a greater passage of time. I think this will be solved the minute new seasoned investigators decide to corroborate angel’s timeline and her and her mother’s statements. Their story will fall apart. If it were possible to find out who Brenda was calling with the neighbors cell, you would find your killer, or at least the middle man. These are sick sick people imo who hide behind a bunch of God’s will nonsense. That is no accident. They know their audience and knew it would go unchallenged. My two cents. I love the podcast and I look forward to fleshing this out and seeing Freddie help bring this killer to justice. I 100% agree with you - I would like to know what the neighbor's cell phone records showed (I hope investigators pulled them once they heard the $300 for the phone story). |
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Post by theseeker on Oct 26, 2020 17:12:55 GMT
Does anyone know how far Angel was from the house when she heard that last gunshot as she was running away from the house? And also was her daughter that slept thru the whole thing ever seen by a doctor? Maybe she was given something. I just find it difficult that she slept thru the whole thing without waking up.
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Post by freddie on Oct 31, 2020 18:14:31 GMT
theseeker As for the first question, Hannah said during an interview that her mom claimed to have heard a gunshot "as she was running down the driveway". And actually, this really makes sense in terms of what the path she would presumably have taken if she ran straight from her front door to the Lawson's house. The Lawson's house is not directly across the street, but across and to the left. So, a straight line from front door to front door runs through the top of the Stewart's driveway. As far as the second question, I don't know. All I can tell you is that I spoke with the police officer who carried the daughter out of the house and the officer confirmed that the child was asleep at the time they got her.
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Post by wayne on Sept 28, 2022 22:39:59 GMT
Was the wife ever even investigated as being a part of this? I listened to just three episodes of this podcast before becoming so enraged. It was obvious from the start that the wife had to have had something to do with this. I agree with the ME that this was overkill and personal. Other things that stand out from the first 3 episodes is that this church is hiding something as well because all of the church people interviewed seem to have a cult mindset. Why would a mother leave a three year old asleep in the house if the attacker were still there? She wouldn't! She left because she knew the 3 year old was in no danger. Why would the older daughter be spending the night away from home for the first time ever when something like this happened? Coincidence? I think not. That screams premeditation. Coincidence rarely happens in a murder investigation. Miracles are very rare. The truth always hides in plain sight and people choose to overlook it and refuse to believe the obvious. Based on the reports of injury, it is obvious the wife did not do this alone nor did the MIL. They had help from a male suspect, but nevertheless it is obvious that this was a premeditated murder.
The sister also seems rather suspicious, like she knows way more than she is willing to reveal. Then I read on this forum that Angel was on a TV show talking about how she was remarried in one month's time. What woman who just loses their husband to a brutal random (lmao) murder remarries in one month. That screams extramarital affair. There is no way in hell this was a random murder. If detectives were willing to do their jobs this murder could have been solved already with someone behind bars. Maybe their is law enforcement corruption in this town or maybe the law enforcement is also part of this cult church.
If Freddie really wanted to get to the bottom of this then he would start pushing to talk to the widow or the new husband. Maybe he should also dig deeper into this church. For starters, if this case is going to be solved then religion has to be left behind. Religion can't influence the search for the truth. People often hide behind religion far too easily. Take that from someone raised in a community full of hypocrites who always hid behind the church to cover their misdeeds.
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